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TAG Meeting
Feb. 2, 2009
6:30-8:30 pm
In Attendance: Bill Manbeck, Crystal Crowder, Mike Ames, Barbara Thomas, Jim Anderson, Gary Collins, Jerry DeRuyter, Ross Sicilia, Ryan Ojerio, Henry Bergquist, Eric Albers, Dave Huttula, Kira Dominiak, Richard Dominiak, Darel Crowder, Mike Hayden, Brian Poehlein (DNR), Nick Cronquist (DNR), Josh Riepe (DNR), Kyle Buckmiller (DNR), Jessica Kimmick (DNR)
Update on timber sales
Kimmick discussed the following sales
*Active:
Corn Palace: might begin logging out road right of way next week. Murphy’s Grade will be impacted. When the road is built, the contractors may put up a gate.
Type N: still active. Blocking 1500 road with yarder, but snowed out just past yarder.
Iron Chef: might currently be working on U3 and U4. Near Bells Mt. Highlighted areas of map still standing as of 2/4/09. Have done shovel logging over trail in a couple of places. Standing Timber needs to be cable yard-ed due to steep slope, which will Result in trail closure for safety purposes. This will begin in Approx. 2 weeks and will probably be completed mid April, Weather dependent. Signage and watchmen during closure Will be in place for safety.
*Upcoming:
Berry Nice: T4N R3E, sections 25 &26: sale in Aug. 09. Bells Mountain Will be effected by road building, but the rest of the trail is Located in the RMZ, so it will be protected. The road will be Abandoned after planting.
Bunch Berry: T3N R4E, sections 4&5: sale in Dec. 09. Tarbell trail near Cold Creek Campground will be affected (Unit 1 adjacent)
Sloppy Joe: T4N R3E, sections 13, 14, 16, 21, 24: sale in Jan 2010. Bells Mountain trail just south of Moulton Falls will be affected (Trail goes through Unit 2) Cable yarding possible.
Trillium: T3N, R4E, sections 16 & 17: sale in Feb. 2010. Tarbell will be Affected. The old L1000J is a potential haul route (road grade Proposed in recreation plan as potential downhill mountain bike Trail)
Skull Cap: T3N R4E, sections 13, 17, 18, 19, and 20: sale in April 2010. Affects non-designated trails in the 1410 road area and the Tarbell South of Hidden Falls.
Hagen Creek: T3N R4E, sections 25 & 26 and T3N R5E, section 31: sale In April 2010. Sections 25 and 26 affect undesignated Grouse Vista trail and section 31 off the 1200 rd. has 4x4 Damage- rehab potential.
Coyote Creek: T3N R4E, sections 4 & 10: sale in May 2010. Affects Tarbell out of Rock Creek Campground and possibly the Undesignated Coyote Creek trail.
Polelander: T4N R4E, sections 34 & 35: sale in June 2010. Affects Tarbell trailhead and trail heading both ways towards Grouse Vista and Rock Creek.
DeRuyter asked if Iron Chef was going to have someone to be there to ensure that the trail will be put back to its original trail condition.
Kimmick stated that it is in the contract for the loggers when they were done to put it back to the condition it was in before it was closed.
Concern voiced that Corn Palace is on Ross and Murphy’s grade, Kimmick will follow up with information about what road the timber sale will take to help define the parameter s of Murphy’s grade within the Corn Palace sale.
The group asked that at the next meeting they get maps of the sales. Kimmick will contact the presales team about getting a plotted map.
Ames asked for an update on Hot Tub and when the logging starts. Kimmick will follow up.
Current Projects/ Events
Yacolt Burn planning process is being wrapped up
Feb 11th is the last meeting of the planning committee
We are looking at prioritizing the list of recommendations for future funding.
New commissioner potentially could throw a wrinkle in getting things approved, however things are going on as planned
Received by off from Region management for recommendations made by the committee.
DNR next steps: working with consultants for the trail lay-out for motorized recreation expansion.
Inquiry: What is the impact of the Wind Turbine on the 1400?
Poehlein stated that there should be none- towers will not be fenced off.
Last step for plan: DNR needs Executive Management to by off on recommendations.
Bob Drole will be the contracted site designer for the Plan, with Steve Uhles as sub-contractor.
DNR WACS will be changed and is being implemented in a month
Language is being changed
All trails will be closed instead of posted open
Forest Watch Patrol training dates
One on Feb 19th 6 pm
March 9th 6pm
Maintenance and Operations update:
Heavy repair completed on the Tarbell bridge near Cold Creek
The sink hole on the Jones Creek trail has been repaired with the placement of a culvert.
Kimmick learned how to run the excavator.
An Eagle Scout student group logged out portions of the Tarbell out of Cold Creek and did maintenance on trail between Cold Creek and Rock Creek as well as in the campgrounds for their Senior Project.
Tunerville campground is getting a toilet replacement. New location will be determined after Feb. 18th archeological shovel test.
Feb. 1st had a Pistons Wild work party pulling vehicles out by the power lines
Bradley trail was looked at by Josh. He wants to put together a work party for that area soon.
Pistons Wild almost got written up for illegal hulk hauling from Clark County Sherriff.
April 18th would like to have a work party to harden trail from Rock Creek to Tarbell trailhead: Thomas wanted to set up some dates and times for work party with Washington Trail Riders Association for Feb. 28th
DeRuyter asked about access to the excavator for usage on the trails- DNR stated that if the request is made with enough time in advance, staff will bring excavator out for work.
Buckmiller discussed that there is limited crew time this year. Repairs to the bridge near Hidden Falls will be done by them and utilize remaining allotted crew time (6.5 days).
This year, DNR staff will need to count on volunteers for brushing because of the limited crew time available.
Kimmick stated that RCO (grant funding agency) is no longer accepting sign-ups without signatures, so signatures are needed on all forms from this point forward.
Event Calendar:
May 9th - clean-up at Tunerville
June 6th - National Trails Day event possibly (weather dependent)
Sept. 26th - National Public Lands Day is Sept. "Pick Up the Burn" event.
New Position Update:
E and E position is being put through we have an exemption for the hire.
Round Table:
Pistons Wild have been working at pulling vehicles out and keeping things cleaned up
2008 had 25 work parties
Group has a new website with photos
PNW 4 wheel drive Association has been working on their event calendar
PUMP Is busy with IMBA getting groups organized in the Portland area.
Will bring on 3 board members, total of 8, trying to expand mountain biking opportunities
Been working on Weyerhaeuser land to help clear their trails
BCH has a booth at the sportsmen show
Getting ready for state meeting in Ellensburg trying to get things together planned out for the summer events.
Been going to Beacon Rock working with WTA to improve the trails there
Washington Trail Riders Association Nothing to report
Jones Creek Trail Riders Association got snowed out last month
Hangover Scramble at Washougal got 300 people to show up January 1st, less then last year
User work parties
Cold Creek Mountain Bikers are getting together their schedule done on a weather permitting basis
Cold Creek Trail has been cleared as you go up to the second bridge
Chinook Trails Association Nothing to report
WTA Beacon Rock is their current priority, as well as work at Cape Disappointment.
Cougar Area Trail Seekers are trying to get out of the snow
Road washed out at 503 couldn’t get out. Lots of broken pipes and roof collapses.
Feb. 18th at Pine Creek Information Center to clean-up.
Upcoming benefit ride out at Cougar area.
Going to Sumpter Oregon for a group ride
Meeting adjourned at 8:30 PM.
Feb. 2, 2009
6:30-8:30 pm
In Attendance: Bill Manbeck, Crystal Crowder, Mike Ames, Barbara Thomas, Jim Anderson, Gary Collins, Jerry DeRuyter, Ross Sicilia, Ryan Ojerio, Henry Bergquist, Eric Albers, Dave Huttula, Kira Dominiak, Richard Dominiak, Darel Crowder, Mike Hayden, Brian Poehlein (DNR), Nick Cronquist (DNR), Josh Riepe (DNR), Kyle Buckmiller (DNR), Jessica Kimmick (DNR)
Update on timber sales
Kimmick discussed the following sales
*Active:
Corn Palace: might begin logging out road right of way next week. Murphy’s Grade will be impacted. When the road is built, the contractors may put up a gate.
Type N: still active. Blocking 1500 road with yarder, but snowed out just past yarder.
Iron Chef: might currently be working on U3 and U4. Near Bells Mt. Highlighted areas of map still standing as of 2/4/09. Have done shovel logging over trail in a couple of places. Standing Timber needs to be cable yard-ed due to steep slope, which will Result in trail closure for safety purposes. This will begin in Approx. 2 weeks and will probably be completed mid April, Weather dependent. Signage and watchmen during closure Will be in place for safety.
*Upcoming:
Berry Nice: T4N R3E, sections 25 &26: sale in Aug. 09. Bells Mountain Will be effected by road building, but the rest of the trail is Located in the RMZ, so it will be protected. The road will be Abandoned after planting.
Bunch Berry: T3N R4E, sections 4&5: sale in Dec. 09. Tarbell trail near Cold Creek Campground will be affected (Unit 1 adjacent)
Sloppy Joe: T4N R3E, sections 13, 14, 16, 21, 24: sale in Jan 2010. Bells Mountain trail just south of Moulton Falls will be affected (Trail goes through Unit 2) Cable yarding possible.
Trillium: T3N, R4E, sections 16 & 17: sale in Feb. 2010. Tarbell will be Affected. The old L1000J is a potential haul route (road grade Proposed in recreation plan as potential downhill mountain bike Trail)
Skull Cap: T3N R4E, sections 13, 17, 18, 19, and 20: sale in April 2010. Affects non-designated trails in the 1410 road area and the Tarbell South of Hidden Falls.
Hagen Creek: T3N R4E, sections 25 & 26 and T3N R5E, section 31: sale In April 2010. Sections 25 and 26 affect undesignated Grouse Vista trail and section 31 off the 1200 rd. has 4x4 Damage- rehab potential.
Coyote Creek: T3N R4E, sections 4 & 10: sale in May 2010. Affects Tarbell out of Rock Creek Campground and possibly the Undesignated Coyote Creek trail.
Polelander: T4N R4E, sections 34 & 35: sale in June 2010. Affects Tarbell trailhead and trail heading both ways towards Grouse Vista and Rock Creek.
DeRuyter asked if Iron Chef was going to have someone to be there to ensure that the trail will be put back to its original trail condition.
Kimmick stated that it is in the contract for the loggers when they were done to put it back to the condition it was in before it was closed.
Concern voiced that Corn Palace is on Ross and Murphy’s grade, Kimmick will follow up with information about what road the timber sale will take to help define the parameter s of Murphy’s grade within the Corn Palace sale.
The group asked that at the next meeting they get maps of the sales. Kimmick will contact the presales team about getting a plotted map.
Ames asked for an update on Hot Tub and when the logging starts. Kimmick will follow up.
Current Projects/ Events
Yacolt Burn planning process is being wrapped up
Feb 11th is the last meeting of the planning committee
We are looking at prioritizing the list of recommendations for future funding.
New commissioner potentially could throw a wrinkle in getting things approved, however things are going on as planned
Received by off from Region management for recommendations made by the committee.
DNR next steps: working with consultants for the trail lay-out for motorized recreation expansion.
Inquiry: What is the impact of the Wind Turbine on the 1400?
Poehlein stated that there should be none- towers will not be fenced off.
Last step for plan: DNR needs Executive Management to by off on recommendations.
Bob Drole will be the contracted site designer for the Plan, with Steve Uhles as sub-contractor.
DNR WACS will be changed and is being implemented in a month
Language is being changed
All trails will be closed instead of posted open
Forest Watch Patrol training dates
One on Feb 19th 6 pm
March 9th 6pm
Maintenance and Operations update:
Heavy repair completed on the Tarbell bridge near Cold Creek
The sink hole on the Jones Creek trail has been repaired with the placement of a culvert.
Kimmick learned how to run the excavator.
An Eagle Scout student group logged out portions of the Tarbell out of Cold Creek and did maintenance on trail between Cold Creek and Rock Creek as well as in the campgrounds for their Senior Project.
Tunerville campground is getting a toilet replacement. New location will be determined after Feb. 18th archeological shovel test.
Feb. 1st had a Pistons Wild work party pulling vehicles out by the power lines
Bradley trail was looked at by Josh. He wants to put together a work party for that area soon.
Pistons Wild almost got written up for illegal hulk hauling from Clark County Sherriff.
April 18th would like to have a work party to harden trail from Rock Creek to Tarbell trailhead: Thomas wanted to set up some dates and times for work party with Washington Trail Riders Association for Feb. 28th
DeRuyter asked about access to the excavator for usage on the trails- DNR stated that if the request is made with enough time in advance, staff will bring excavator out for work.
Buckmiller discussed that there is limited crew time this year. Repairs to the bridge near Hidden Falls will be done by them and utilize remaining allotted crew time (6.5 days).
This year, DNR staff will need to count on volunteers for brushing because of the limited crew time available.
Kimmick stated that RCO (grant funding agency) is no longer accepting sign-ups without signatures, so signatures are needed on all forms from this point forward.
Event Calendar:
May 9th - clean-up at Tunerville
June 6th - National Trails Day event possibly (weather dependent)
Sept. 26th - National Public Lands Day is Sept. "Pick Up the Burn" event.
New Position Update:
E and E position is being put through we have an exemption for the hire.
Round Table:
Pistons Wild have been working at pulling vehicles out and keeping things cleaned up
2008 had 25 work parties
Group has a new website with photos
PNW 4 wheel drive Association has been working on their event calendar
PUMP Is busy with IMBA getting groups organized in the Portland area.
Will bring on 3 board members, total of 8, trying to expand mountain biking opportunities
Been working on Weyerhaeuser land to help clear their trails
BCH has a booth at the sportsmen show
Getting ready for state meeting in Ellensburg trying to get things together planned out for the summer events.
Been going to Beacon Rock working with WTA to improve the trails there
Washington Trail Riders Association Nothing to report
Jones Creek Trail Riders Association got snowed out last month
Hangover Scramble at Washougal got 300 people to show up January 1st, less then last year
User work parties
Cold Creek Mountain Bikers are getting together their schedule done on a weather permitting basis
Cold Creek Trail has been cleared as you go up to the second bridge
Chinook Trails Association Nothing to report
WTA Beacon Rock is their current priority, as well as work at Cape Disappointment.
Cougar Area Trail Seekers are trying to get out of the snow
Road washed out at 503 couldn’t get out. Lots of broken pipes and roof collapses.
Feb. 18th at Pine Creek Information Center to clean-up.
Upcoming benefit ride out at Cougar area.
Going to Sumpter Oregon for a group ride
Meeting adjourned at 8:30 PM.