flipflop
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Post by flipflop on Oct 28, 2009 0:21:39 GMT -8
Looking to dyno. a 22re in Portland/Vanc. area, anyone have experience or recommendations?
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Post by Jon on Oct 28, 2009 8:22:54 GMT -8
The rally folks seem to like English Racing here in vancouver. Supposedly they have a 4 wheel dyno even. "English Racing Dyno is 3315 NE 112th AVE Vancouver. WA 98682 Building B unit 92/93. In the same complex as Charlie's cocktail lounge and Cottmans Transmission. Can call 360-901-3112 if you have any questions. " englishracing.net/
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Post by flipflop on Oct 28, 2009 16:32:38 GMT -8
The rally folks seem to like English Racing here in vancouver. Supposedly they have a 4 wheel dyno even. "English Racing Dyno is 3315 NE 112th AVE Vancouver. WA 98682 Building B unit 92/93. In the same complex as Charlie's cocktail lounge and Cottmans Transmission. Can call 360-901-3112 if you have any questions. " englishracing.net/ Thanks Jon, that's so close I'll have to stop by Friday and see what they say about dynoing this toyota. Regards, flip.flop
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Post by racincowboy on Oct 28, 2009 18:03:14 GMT -8
Are you looking for a chassis dyno or just an engine dyno?
As far as chassis I know there is one in Gresham on division about 196th or so on the north side of the road. If I remember right it is good to 1200hp.
Engine dyno I know of one at Eastco machine on Burnside about 218th I think it is.
I think you are over vancouver way thought arent you?
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Post by flipflop on Oct 28, 2009 18:39:28 GMT -8
Are you looking for a chassis dyno or just an engine dyno? As far as chassis I know there is one in Gresham on division about 196th or so on the north side of the road. If I remember right it is good to 1200hp. Engine dyno I know of one at Eastco machine on Burnside about 218th I think it is. I think you are over vancouver way thought arent you? Thanks for info. and yes I hibernate in the Couve. Honestly I don't know the difference between a chassis dyno vs. engine dyno. I thought there's just one kind... What I'm looking for is to find what RPM my max torque output is and also I'd like to see the torque and H.P. on graph from off idle to about 5500rpms. I have plans in the near future to try some different camshafts and tune some gizmos on the EFI. So I want dyno it first as my base to get actual facts. about future changes vs. performance gained/lost. flip.flop
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Post by toyrocs on Oct 28, 2009 19:18:54 GMT -8
AAAAAAHHHHHH ! I thought you were heavily thinking of a vortec 4.3 V6? Circa 1993 thru 1995? A 22re just can't produce enough torque even when hopped up to do much good.
If you do manage to get more out of it, it won't be cost effective. How about just leave it alone if it's running OK. These engines are great little engine, but they are still little engines & don't produce a lot of torque . Hop up features ( cam, cylinder head mods/ compression ratio increase, bore-stroke) tend to decrease reliability, increase overheating problems, decrease gas mileage & present drive ability problems. You may gain a little by playing with the fuel mixture ( fuel injection) .The ignition advance is computer controlled so no easy adjustment there.
The last time we were out in your truck, it started, drove & sounded fine with no miss or hesitation , no pinging in the normal rpm range, power output was OK. No smoke ( blue, black or white) on start up or under heavy acceleration.
What's up dude ? Toyrocs
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Post by bigstuck on Oct 28, 2009 20:10:59 GMT -8
Also dont forget to go see Travis at fast specialties!! he is a wizard on the dyno like lucas is at english motorsports.
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Post by fry on Oct 29, 2009 11:27:46 GMT -8
bigstuck beat me to it. fastspecialties has a dyno right across the street from your favorite place to eat.
anyone know how much dyno time is? never had pockets that deep.
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Post by iceman on Oct 30, 2009 13:17:38 GMT -8
Not to take away from fast specialties ( they area great shop and also sponsered us at the cruize in) but Tom at Tom's Performance does a great job he has allway's done my engine work and all my Dyno tuning. He's cheeper than fast specialties and is a great guy. If you do go there tell him Ryan sent you.
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Post by flipflop on Nov 2, 2009 9:42:48 GMT -8
Not to take away from fast specialties ( they area great shop and also sponsered us at the cruize in) but Tom at Tom's Performance does a great job he has allway's done my engine work and all my Dyno tuning. He's cheeper than fast specialties and is a great guy. If you do go there tell him Ryan sent you. Ahhh good to know, didn't know he had a dyno thanks Iceman. flip.flop
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Post by flipflop on Nov 2, 2009 10:06:51 GMT -8
AAAAAAHHHHHH ! I thought you were heavily thinking of a vortec 4.3 V6? Circa 1993 thru 1995? A 22re just can't produce enough torque even when hopped up to do much good. If you do manage to get more out of it, it won't be cost effective. How about just leave it alone if it's running OK. These engines are great little engine, but they are still little engines & don't produce a lot of torque . Hop up features ( cam, cylinder head mods/ compression ratio increase, bore-stroke) tend to decrease reliability, increase overheating problems, decrease gas mileage & present drive ability problems. You may gain a little by playing with the fuel mixture ( fuel injection) .The ignition advance is computer controlled so no easy adjustment there. The last time we were out in your truck, it started, drove & sounded fine with no miss or hesitation , no pinging in the normal rpm range, power output was OK. No smoke ( blue, black or white) on start up or under heavy acceleration. What's up dude ? Toyrocs Toyrocs, I totally agree with everything you said, but my engine is still having a lean missfire, off idle to about 2000 rpms. Which is an RPM range that I'm in all the time snow wheeling, not to mention I still take it through DEQ for a few more years. I could take it somewhere and have a shop put it on a 5-way sniffer and tune the motor to get rid of the lean misfire or dyno it a couple times and tune it myself. I have 2 out of 3 additional camshafts sitting in my shop that I want to try out with this motor. Just to see which one is best once and for all. There's the age old 22re Toyota question that haunts me late at night: "Whats the best Camshaft for low-end torque for a 22r/re?" There's allot of opinion's on other Toyota forums about this topic but nobody really has dyno runs to prove the 5-10H.P. increase for example. In my eye's the proof is in the dyno sheet. btw, I'll post the results on here but I'm pretty sure that torque/h.p. wont be over double digits due to the truck having dual t-cases. flip.flop
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Post by toyrocs on Nov 2, 2009 18:16:19 GMT -8
Lean miss fire at low rpm /part throttle operation ? Here is one (of many) things to check for : 1) Induction air leak. a) With engine at idle speed ( high vacuum). b) Check with a flammable spray ( ether). Spray ALL areas of system-- gaskets, flanges,ports, throttle shaft,sensors,couplers/valves, airflow meter,engine oil dip stick, oil fill cap , PVC valve, hoses ( even mid hose). c) If you get ANY rpm rise you have found an external leak. d) Fix leak(s) & test drive again. This is a cheap , easy check . Report what you find & we'll talk about other tests Good luck. Toyrocs
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Post by flipflop on Nov 2, 2009 18:47:33 GMT -8
Lean miss fire at low rpm /part throttle operation ? Here is one (of many) things to check for : 1) Induction air leak. a) With engine at idle speed ( high vacuum). b) Check with a flammable spray ( ether). Spray ALL areas of system-- gaskets, flanges,ports, throttle shaft,sensors,couplers/valves, airflow meter,engine oil dip stick, oil fill cap , PVC valve, hoses ( even mid hose). c) If you get ANY rpm rise you have found an external leak. d) Fix leak(s) & test drive again. This is a cheap , easy check . Report what you find & we'll talk about other tests Good luck. Toyrocs Thank you, I'll give (a-d) a try and let you know what turns up. Sometimes it takes a fresh set of eyes to find it as well if you ever get some free time... Keep in mind I've taken it to several different shops in Vanc./Portland area and most told be that there was nothing wrong with it so don't worry about it (just drive it) this is including Toyota of Vancouver. flip.flop
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Post by bigstuck on Nov 17, 2009 19:58:57 GMT -8
Not the biggest fan of dyno work out of toms perf. Had a toyota done there once and they used a TON of timing and it didnt run that well. It went elsewhere to someone without a dyno and it ran like it had twice as much power.
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Post by flipflop on Nov 20, 2009 21:12:48 GMT -8
Not the biggest fan of dyno work out of toms perf. Had a toyota done there once and they used a TON of timing and it didnt run that well. It went elsewhere to someone without a dyno and it ran like it had twice as much power. Huh, good to know. I actually just got back from a dyno shop, we were trying to get the air/fuel mix dialed in. After messing with the Air Flow Meter for over an hour it was determined that it would be good to install a Wideband to watch the air/fuel readings while I'm driving and tuneing the EFI system...I'll bable on about this further in the Import/Toy. section. Thanks for the good information bigstuck!! flip.flop
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