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Post by bchutchens on Apr 22, 2009 14:22:27 GMT -8
If money was not the matter, what do you think would be good to help with building or upgrading trails in the Yacolt Burn. Maybe some day we could even get some of these items. But remember it is just a wish list for now. Think BIG... |
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Post by bchutchens on Apr 22, 2009 14:28:35 GMT -8
This is one of those things I would like to try and see if it worked for picking up and dragging the trails for sticks. All of the things in Red look like items that could work well.
It maybe time to start looking at grants......
A wide assortment of SPEEDPoint attachments are available for the Arctic Cat ATV, including tandem and single discs, a cultivator, a drag harrow, moldboard plow, landscape rake, rear blade, corn planter and box scraper. |
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Post by bchutchens on Apr 22, 2009 15:03:09 GMT -8
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Post by fivendime on Apr 22, 2009 15:07:28 GMT -8
Is DNR going to provide some tools, or is it solely in our hands? First a good trailer we could tow with an atv, one you could use for multiple purposes. Check the link: www.atvwagon.comThen you must check this out. Its an attachment that can mount to your atv or a truck, Jeep or whatever you bring on the trail. View the video they have there to see what I mean. I think this would be sweet since both an atv and truck can use it. Link: www.beaverpro.com/products/atv_accessories/atv_accessories.htm |
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Post by bchutchens on Apr 22, 2009 15:28:45 GMT -8
Most likely we will have to get your own tools. They don't have any money.
I suggested the trailer to Jones Creek a couple of years back, and they bought one of the two axel ones. They seem to like it.
And they have had one of the beaver back hoes for years.
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Post by Jon on Apr 22, 2009 15:35:16 GMT -8
Heres a couple off the top of my head.
- Game / Trail cameras battery or solar operated. I know these dont build trails but I think they would be handy in identifying those who destroy them.
- A Cat, probably to big, and DNR probably wouldn't like it, but having a dozer would seem to be helpful.
- A little Bob cat. Again, maybe they wouldn't like it, but it would seem to be helpful.
- Shovels, axes, saws, lopers and all the other stuff we all have and bring. This isn't so much for us, but maybe for those folks who don't have the tools but are willing to volunteer.
- A snow cat - cause I think it would be cool...
- X2 on all of the trailers already mentioned.
I'm sure I can come up with more once I think a bit....
- backhoe (see already came up with one).
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Post by Jon on Apr 22, 2009 15:36:37 GMT -8
whoops, looks like I need to read a bit more before hitting the post button. I think pretty much everything I mentioned was on the list already... hmmm...
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Post by fivendime on Apr 22, 2009 15:47:14 GMT -8
Who's going to store these items? If we get too many things we will need to many trailers and places to store them thats the only bummer about the larger items. I think it would be cool to get something thats hugely universal if possible.
Other then that, we all have a pair of hands, and I wonder how many people would volunteer often enough, since this seems to be a huge project.
Also how about other clubs helping with tools? I know its a little off topic.
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Post by bchutchens on Apr 22, 2009 15:56:21 GMT -8
I'm thinking on of these up at the new 4-corners trailhead for all those great tools.   And a good ALARM! |
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Post by bchutchens on Apr 22, 2009 15:57:46 GMT -8
And a real good year round camp host.
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Post by hootie on Apr 22, 2009 16:32:45 GMT -8
pick me,, pick me...
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Post by pistonschick on May 22, 2009 7:52:39 GMT -8
INTERESTING HISTORY LESSON ABOUT ROAD BUILDING
Railroad track specifications and transportation. You will see how this will relate to trail building.
Be sure to read the final paragraph; your understanding of it will depend on the earlier part of the content.
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The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number.
Why was that gauge used?
Because that's the way they built them in England, and English expatriates built the US railroads.
Why did the English build them like that?
Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used.
Why did 'they' use that gauge then?
Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing.
Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing?
Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would break on some of the old, long distance roads in England, because that's the spacing of the wheel ruts.
So who built those old rutted roads?
Imperial Rome built the first long distance roads in Europe (and England ) for their legions. The roads have been used ever since.
And the ruts in the roads?
Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, which everyone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels. Since the chariots were made for Imperial Rome, they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing. Therefore the United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches is derived from the original specifications for an Imperial Roman war chariot..
Bureaucracies live forever.
So the next time you are handed a specification/procedure/process and wonder 'What horse's ass came up with it?', you may be exactly right. Imperial Roman army chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the rear ends of two war horses. (Two horse's asses.)
Now, the twist to the story:
When you see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, orSRB's. The SRB's are made by Thiokol at their factory in Utah .The eng who designed the SRB's would have preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the SRB's had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site.. The railroad line from the factory happens to run through a tunnel in the mountains, and the SRB's had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track, as you now know, is about as wide as two horses' behinds.
So, a major Space Shuttle design feature of what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system was determined over two thousand years ago by the width of a horse's ass.
And you thought being a horse's ass wasn't important?
Ancient horse's asses control almost everything...
...and CURRENT Horses Asses are controlling everything else.
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Post by xjramrod on Nov 15, 2009 13:15:39 GMT -8
im not quite sure about how much they would be of use but a few log chokers might come in handy
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Post by xjramrod on Nov 15, 2009 13:25:48 GMT -8
now that i look again, since the trails will need to be marked a powered post hole digger possibly one for the previously mentioned skidsteer. mutliple utv's with dump beds would make transport of fill material and small bolders easy and some sort of a mini excavator with a thumb to move and place boulders around and in trails.
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Post by twinstick on Oct 25, 2010 12:41:47 GMT -8
We have one good heavy duty 4x4 trailer that we can use to move materials and im building a dump 4x4 trailer small and stout should be done soon that should help move materials up the trail if needed if anyone needs to use a trailer to build trails up there just let me know i have no problem loaning them out if there going for our trail system and i cannot make it to help so ill let you no when the dump trailer is ready to go it will probably only be a hydraulic hand pump dump this year unless i can find a used hydraulic motor cheap but even a hand pump will get er done for now ...  |
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